Howard is God?

Is Fridays meeting in Canberra about water or power, ecology or elections , a beautiful new bureaucratic machine.
Maybe its about not about ecology and is really about theology (Who do you believe has the power?) .
King Canute would be fascinated . As a effective politician and leader, he once had to remind his courtiers that, while he was very powerful, he was not God, and water was one thing he could not control.
Turnbull taps might be gold plated, but they still won't turn ON when he thinks they will.
Maybe he is too used to 2 straight lines columns on the ledger in his office ( where the simple matter of scarcity can be so easily profitable for the rich to exploit!)

Perhaps he's forgotten to brief himself on the world God made- where real curves intersect without crashing and progress to this point has been beautifully blended for both scarcity and abundance- where the many forms of life manage to live together for eons without his help , profiting in symbiosis without sickly self centered simplicities economia. Copyright

The great defect in talking "the greenhouse effect"

Nothing undermines the fearmongers case more that their failure to report scientists properly . They quote selectively to suit their old story that the sky is falling .

The latest theories is that co2 is causing global warming when this rare and empehemeral molecule clearly can't absorb much radiation or have much of a role in reflection. When this FACT hits home the investments in carbon trading will go where we know they are headed as both unsustainable ideas and actions.
The greenhouse effect too has got a bad name because it is not being discussed properly . As the UN report this week unclearly hints, land clearing is more likely to increase air temperature and change atmospheric conditions than the amount of Co2 which is busily being recycled before our very eyes. More later.
How much longer will the media be content to mention the name carbon - not long I suggest remeber You heard it first on blogger and otwayfm .

WE lead --others follow

"Australia's crippling drought, which some lawmakers have called the worst for 1,000 years, is a natural occurrence and has no link to global warming, the country's top science organization said on Thursday." CSIRO December 27th 2006
Some need only the power of office to pontificate on what they think is important -

Others need to process a whole lot of statistics to know what we are trained to assess on the smell of an oily rag . Victoria is poorer in 2006 for the sacking of professional but politically incorrect risk assesors who don't run a quick fix knee jerk reaction to threats which deserve a well balanced and metered appropraite response.

a more moderate and less wasteful age was when ministers relied not on "their feelings" but on some one wisers wisdom . I wonder how mr thwaites and his lapdogs will cope when it rains again...

The Stern report --

World reaction to yesterday's U.K. report .
A U.S. energy-industry spokesperson .... "fun with numbers," and
OPEC's secretary-general said it reflected "scenarios that have no foundations in either science or economics." Ouch.

Global warming may be a "political reality" - BUT if the adherents were seriuos maybe it should a different type of reality first.

If they were seriuos about motivating us they would report ad infintum on science forums , not some meetings for the wanna meets and getting politicians like gore and blair to convince us about what is truth.

then we come to the science facts.
Where are we ( you tell me if its any different )
---the seas are getting slightly warmer -- since we started measuring it ( yes)but it might go down again
---The air is getting slighly warmer ( i bet none really has a handle on that and what diiference does it make -- its less indicative than the oceans )
--Co2 are rising, but from very low levels historically and geologically
-- the effect of doubling of C02 on env is not clear
--anthromorphic factors such as raditaion reflection and CH4 can be xepecetd to be more important than Co2 ?


Those who voted at Kyoto have set themselves on tram to nowhere specifically important . If they are going to spend our money on the future I would rather it was their money!

The point is the governments decision is a popular one - not necessarily a sound one. The deeper point is that you could advise them that this apparenetly long term decsion was weighted with a quick fix pardigm and is not what it seems !Just quick fix

Who would have thought that as practical scientists of the 60's we would face the prospect that our life's work in big picture environmental understanding and risk management would be so often ignored for blinkered, inadequate and even irrational views . The opportunity to invest wisely in conservation is being lost to those with an unrealistic and narrow museum worldview view of the world that avoids buying into the really tough and dynamic cutting edge issues. - the ones that Africa Asia and the Middle east need to move with right now .

Clearly too , if we are going to be more effective , we have to recognize the rational basis for the irrationality that’s out there Things like worldview, denial ,projection and guilt factors and the widespread Western cultures failure to see different value systems as actual heavy weighting factors in human decision making.

What gives the post Christian worldview of “nature worship” so much power is the value its adherents place on matter over mind. Those of us who want to see sound outcomes and not tokens need to take”nature worship” issues seriously because the values systems themselves can powerfully and increasingly distort the mere “evidence on its own “principles.

It’s easy to see elements of distortion , narrowmindedness ,fear, guilt and projection going on in that ‘irrational and emotive opponent” - harder to recognize it in your own worldview. To reduce the degree to which we might be calling the kettle black , we need to understand how to rationally argue both science and values together - to chase objectivity - well done AEF !

We , and our governments , can be a lot more effective in sound conservation investments if we understand and accept the real depths of the paradigm challenges that face each community living in and with each environment . Join in and help us BE objective and avoid cul de sac quick fix and token investments in conservation. http://cuttingedgeconservation.blogspot.com

Spreading Jam on Wounds
"I've got no doubt that right across the country we're spending far too much on bureaucracy and administration and we need to make sure more of it gets to the pointy end," The HON IAN CAMPBELL said yesterday

While I welcome the focus on the pointy end, the conservatives still give the dollar to the wrong accountability groups simply because they prefer simplicity.
And while I am not one to promote the simple greens, Ian's very talk of "trees" is simple talk all big picture conservationist learn to hate . Sustainable conservation, if its anything, is not simple- spreading jam stuff . Complexity, diversity and success in integration are the key to sustaining life here on earth and its not simple; possible though! .
All those who treat it with tokens waste precious dollars and career opportunitiies for our children. Give our children more than token efforts and advance the real professional and political issues and challenges http://productionecologists.blogspot.com


Our leaders like to focus on the sweets rather than the substance . They still get lulled into a sense of false comfort by the mere mention of the word "enterprise" , unaware of the high risk of isolation rather than integration-
The left hand does not knowesth what the right handeth doeth .The nurse and the CEO talk different languages. One offers jam, the other talks about uneccesary jagged edges( real sustainability issues), and how to avoid them long term .
Government is not business and true accountability ( Minister to Department) is still the key to sore prevention,stable, sustainable and more satisfying staffing and support .
All the other expensive rubbish their revived quango theology has created in the last couple of decsdes will keep coming back to bite them big time- the waste is the current governments creation ---not neccesarily the goodwill and volunteer groups-groups who one presumes still get little money for propaganda purposes.

see also govtisnotbusiness

Maybe its Ok to be suspiciuus about the logic, but what are the things we should and can change long term ?

Academics too with no vision, but to close things down? Hard work making decisions about something as simple as the environment! ?????

A sydney academic on the world today last week had no answers for Sugar farmers . Get big - they've got bigger . get smarter ( you name it they"ve done it !
Perhaps he didn't say what he really thought- love to hear from you mate! Rob?
I wonder if he listens to the media and thinks sugar farming is unsustainable ,but wasn't really prepared to say so ----pity the truth is now a large casualty of the war !
More on Sustainable systems? Don't let the media and wannabe leaders tell capable people what is and is not sustainable http://www.rachel.org
Unless you know more than they do or know something they don't ? Why not share your wisdom?

A site for questions! Check out our list of iconic issues in the links and just where the distortions are.
Reduce the panic in your neighbourhood and makeyourself more effective when you do act for the environment