WE lead --others follow

"Australia's crippling drought, which some lawmakers have called the worst for 1,000 years, is a natural occurrence and has no link to global warming, the country's top science organization said on Thursday." CSIRO December 27th 2006
Some need only the power of office to pontificate on what they think is important -

Others need to process a whole lot of statistics to know what we are trained to assess on the smell of an oily rag . Victoria is poorer in 2006 for the sacking of professional but politically incorrect risk assesors who don't run a quick fix knee jerk reaction to threats which deserve a well balanced and metered appropraite response.

a more moderate and less wasteful age was when ministers relied not on "their feelings" but on some one wisers wisdom . I wonder how mr thwaites and his lapdogs will cope when it rains again...

The Stern report --

World reaction to yesterday's U.K. report .
A U.S. energy-industry spokesperson .... "fun with numbers," and
OPEC's secretary-general said it reflected "scenarios that have no foundations in either science or economics." Ouch.

Global warming may be a "political reality" - BUT if the adherents were seriuos maybe it should a different type of reality first.

If they were seriuos about motivating us they would report ad infintum on science forums , not some meetings for the wanna meets and getting politicians like gore and blair to convince us about what is truth.

then we come to the science facts.
Where are we ( you tell me if its any different )
---the seas are getting slightly warmer -- since we started measuring it ( yes)but it might go down again
---The air is getting slighly warmer ( i bet none really has a handle on that and what diiference does it make -- its less indicative than the oceans )
--Co2 are rising, but from very low levels historically and geologically
-- the effect of doubling of C02 on env is not clear
--anthromorphic factors such as raditaion reflection and CH4 can be xepecetd to be more important than Co2 ?


Those who voted at Kyoto have set themselves on tram to nowhere specifically important . If they are going to spend our money on the future I would rather it was their money!