The people are confused and we have confused em - We might be happy to be on the merry go round but the people are getting dizzy and when they drop off may wake up and realise they have been taken for aride - a big expensive nice sounding ride
First it was the ozone then it was the dioxide and the warming , then it was the warming and the cooling, then the floods were added.
Now Clinton is into "carbon" reduction - have we finally found someting we can agree on? Pity about all those worthless agreements and incentives that focus on CO2 and warming - anyone for an eoomia test?
Monday, February 23, 2009
Monday, February 25, 2008
Garnaut's gambling ramblings
Undermining Garnaut completely is the fact that even a major change in the production curves in australian agriculture are extremely unlikely to affect the economy.
Thursday, October 25, 2007
Climate change and real change
Monists should be worried . People say one thing and do another . ( A positive surface effect often hides a darker and deeper negative effect - solutions are harder to achieve than the press and mere politics would suggest!)
Consider the superficial tokenism on the environment of the present . The Climate clever docs will be used to switch off one thing but then switch on another. Accountaibility isn't the issue for those who are careful conservationsists - they don't need an incentive and a booklet that dumbs down the challenge .- they know its bigger than the attempt to build cleverness . The clever document does one thing by dumbing down the issue --it gives incentive to do nothing or even something negative - "we did what you suggested "!
The millions spent on the magazines of cheap choices don't offer real choice to cut carbon, just real choice to avoid the hard decsions that might really matter ( see below for more) . The millions spent on presenting a positive angle don't do anything positive to limit the negative side . Lets hear the ABC and the press ask why both parties haven't got a tax on air conditioners as part of the cocontribution to carbon targets. After all governments can't do everything - can they?
Are we heading into summer with lower carbon emissions or just more careless emissions. Copyright Emperors academy
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Consider the superficial tokenism on the environment of the present . The Climate clever docs will be used to switch off one thing but then switch on another. Accountaibility isn't the issue for those who are careful conservationsists - they don't need an incentive and a booklet that dumbs down the challenge .- they know its bigger than the attempt to build cleverness . The clever document does one thing by dumbing down the issue --it gives incentive to do nothing or even something negative - "we did what you suggested "!
The millions spent on the magazines of cheap choices don't offer real choice to cut carbon, just real choice to avoid the hard decsions that might really matter ( see below for more) . The millions spent on presenting a positive angle don't do anything positive to limit the negative side . Lets hear the ABC and the press ask why both parties haven't got a tax on air conditioners as part of the cocontribution to carbon targets. After all governments can't do everything - can they?
Are we heading into summer with lower carbon emissions or just more careless emissions. Copyright Emperors academy
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Thursday, July 12, 2007
Climate change uncertainty
Update sept 07 . Mr Plimer did well in the Age yesterday . The media fascination with "new science" has caused many of them to miss the intellectual boat completely : "forgeting "as they have for years that geologists have a very legitimate view of earth processes and the best way to work new research in earth science . Old science is infact an expression of what we as scientists respect . It contrasts rather well with the common myopia and wonder working worship of "new science" and the more recent shortsighted preoccupation with the emphemeral - the study of hot air .
Plimer was on the money, but not fast enough for the chasers war on truth ; the fast moving agenda change agents . In his Age article today he uses "global warning " words which like the correct idea of "climate change uncertainty " is fine for scientists because it relates to facts . BUT Such talk is now , it seems, not new enough "science speak" - for those who claim to support science but who are often only interested in moving on ?
Mr Plimer did a great job BUT he still needs to keep up to date with the lost wandering tribes of diversionary tactic specialists .
In a matter of a mere cool spell , they have changed course again !
They now insist on talking only of "climate change" and resisting "global warming" talk . One presumes that their key target ( the audience) is getting cold here in Victoria .
Apperently, the term "global warming" limits their opportunity to say things .
The "new science" brigade want the opportunity to stay in front of the debate; to say anything they like about climate; especially that it does change. Clever , but not new discoveries in science ! You heard it first on blogger !
Plimer was on the money, but not fast enough for the chasers war on truth ; the fast moving agenda change agents . In his Age article today he uses "global warning " words which like the correct idea of "climate change uncertainty " is fine for scientists because it relates to facts . BUT Such talk is now , it seems, not new enough "science speak" - for those who claim to support science but who are often only interested in moving on ?
Mr Plimer did a great job BUT he still needs to keep up to date with the lost wandering tribes of diversionary tactic specialists .
In a matter of a mere cool spell , they have changed course again !
They now insist on talking only of "climate change" and resisting "global warming" talk . One presumes that their key target ( the audience) is getting cold here in Victoria .
Apperently, the term "global warming" limits their opportunity to say things .
The "new science" brigade want the opportunity to stay in front of the debate; to say anything they like about climate; especially that it does change. Clever , but not new discoveries in science ! You heard it first on blogger !
Thursday, March 15, 2007
Keep cool
No need to get too excited - the world is not falling apart, but
---their is a lot of guilt around trying to find a target that's not too close to home . Point is even if there is a need to act
-----many will be on the blame game and the quick fix game
-----you or someone you know and love may be the target -- not a solution that really WORKS
----- The HOW is dependant on cool rational discussion . not the inflated hype of Gore hysteria and hyster graphics .( my money is on the graph staying rather flatter than he suggests- you heard it first on blogger mar 2007)
Just a bit of history to keep you calm ( I hope)
Add some more to our dateline please !
1977 ---NEWSWEEK ran an alarmist article on global temperature changes entitled " The Cooling World"
1991 ---Mt Pinatubo ( the Phillipines) punched ash into the stratosphere ( as did Mt Agung in 1963) and blocked out sunlight to the extent that the earth COOLED by 0.5 degrees ( New Scientist jan 2007)
2007 Foreign Correspondent this week ran a exciting story on some islands in the Pacific that were being flooded by the sea. Everyone was getting excited the news we have been waiting for at last !!!!!
In an investigation that was reminscient,in style, to that of Margaret Mead, the locals were saying " we'' all be ruined " while a cool mr plimer the geologist clearly had other ideas --which were only briefly mentioned - don't spoil a good story by telling the truth . What was the truth - ar they sinking or is the sea rising?
---their is a lot of guilt around trying to find a target that's not too close to home . Point is even if there is a need to act
-----many will be on the blame game and the quick fix game
-----you or someone you know and love may be the target -- not a solution that really WORKS
----- The HOW is dependant on cool rational discussion . not the inflated hype of Gore hysteria and hyster graphics .( my money is on the graph staying rather flatter than he suggests- you heard it first on blogger mar 2007)
Just a bit of history to keep you calm ( I hope)
Add some more to our dateline please !
1977 ---NEWSWEEK ran an alarmist article on global temperature changes entitled " The Cooling World"
1991 ---Mt Pinatubo ( the Phillipines) punched ash into the stratosphere ( as did Mt Agung in 1963) and blocked out sunlight to the extent that the earth COOLED by 0.5 degrees ( New Scientist jan 2007)
2007 Foreign Correspondent this week ran a exciting story on some islands in the Pacific that were being flooded by the sea. Everyone was getting excited the news we have been waiting for at last !!!!!
In an investigation that was reminscient,in style, to that of Margaret Mead, the locals were saying " we'' all be ruined " while a cool mr plimer the geologist clearly had other ideas --which were only briefly mentioned - don't spoil a good story by telling the truth . What was the truth - ar they sinking or is the sea rising?
Thursday, February 22, 2007
Howard is God?
Is Fridays meeting in Canberra about water or power, ecology or elections , a beautiful new bureaucratic machine.
Maybe its about not about ecology and is really about theology (Who do you believe has the power?) .
King Canute would be fascinated . As a effective politician and leader, he once had to remind his courtiers that, while he was very powerful, he was not God, and water was one thing he could not control.
Turnbull taps might be gold plated, but they still won't turn ON when he thinks they will.
Maybe he is too used to 2 straight lines columns on the ledger in his office ( where the simple matter of scarcity can be so easily profitable for the rich to exploit!)
Perhaps he's forgotten to brief himself on the world God made- where real curves intersect without crashing and progress to this point has been beautifully blended for both scarcity and abundance- where the many forms of life manage to live together for eons without his help , profiting in symbiosis without sickly self centered simplicities economia. Copyright
Maybe its about not about ecology and is really about theology (Who do you believe has the power?) .
King Canute would be fascinated . As a effective politician and leader, he once had to remind his courtiers that, while he was very powerful, he was not God, and water was one thing he could not control.
Turnbull taps might be gold plated, but they still won't turn ON when he thinks they will.
Maybe he is too used to 2 straight lines columns on the ledger in his office ( where the simple matter of scarcity can be so easily profitable for the rich to exploit!)
Perhaps he's forgotten to brief himself on the world God made- where real curves intersect without crashing and progress to this point has been beautifully blended for both scarcity and abundance- where the many forms of life manage to live together for eons without his help , profiting in symbiosis without sickly self centered simplicities economia. Copyright
Saturday, February 03, 2007
The great defect in talking "the greenhouse effect"
Nothing undermines the fearmongers case more that their failure to report scientists properly . They quote selectively to suit their old story that the sky is falling .
The latest theories is that co2 is causing global warming when this rare and empehemeral molecule clearly can't absorb much radiation or have much of a role in reflection. When this FACT hits home the investments in carbon trading will go where we know they are headed as both unsustainable ideas and actions.
The greenhouse effect too has got a bad name because it is not being discussed properly . As the UN report this week unclearly hints, land clearing is more likely to increase air temperature and change atmospheric conditions than the amount of Co2 which is busily being recycled before our very eyes. More later.
How much longer will the media be content to mention the name carbon - not long I suggest remeber You heard it first on blogger and otwayfm .
The latest theories is that co2 is causing global warming when this rare and empehemeral molecule clearly can't absorb much radiation or have much of a role in reflection. When this FACT hits home the investments in carbon trading will go where we know they are headed as both unsustainable ideas and actions.
The greenhouse effect too has got a bad name because it is not being discussed properly . As the UN report this week unclearly hints, land clearing is more likely to increase air temperature and change atmospheric conditions than the amount of Co2 which is busily being recycled before our very eyes. More later.
How much longer will the media be content to mention the name carbon - not long I suggest remeber You heard it first on blogger and otwayfm .
Saturday, December 30, 2006
WE lead --others follow
"Australia's crippling drought, which some lawmakers have called the worst for 1,000 years, is a natural occurrence and has no link to global warming, the country's top science organization said on Thursday." CSIRO December 27th 2006
Some need only the power of office to pontificate on what they think is important -
Others need to process a whole lot of statistics to know what we are trained to assess on the smell of an oily rag . Victoria is poorer in 2006 for the sacking of professional but politically incorrect risk assesors who don't run a quick fix knee jerk reaction to threats which deserve a well balanced and metered appropraite response.
a more moderate and less wasteful age was when ministers relied not on "their feelings" but on some one wisers wisdom . I wonder how mr thwaites and his lapdogs will cope when it rains again...
Some need only the power of office to pontificate on what they think is important -
Others need to process a whole lot of statistics to know what we are trained to assess on the smell of an oily rag . Victoria is poorer in 2006 for the sacking of professional but politically incorrect risk assesors who don't run a quick fix knee jerk reaction to threats which deserve a well balanced and metered appropraite response.
a more moderate and less wasteful age was when ministers relied not on "their feelings" but on some one wisers wisdom . I wonder how mr thwaites and his lapdogs will cope when it rains again...
Wednesday, November 01, 2006
The Stern report --
World reaction to yesterday's U.K. report .
A U.S. energy-industry spokesperson .... "fun with numbers," and
OPEC's secretary-general said it reflected "scenarios that have no foundations in either science or economics." Ouch.
A U.S. energy-industry spokesperson .... "fun with numbers," and
OPEC's secretary-general said it reflected "scenarios that have no foundations in either science or economics." Ouch.
Global warming may be a "political reality" - BUT if the adherents were seriuos maybe it should a different type of reality first.
If they were seriuos about motivating us they would report ad infintum on science forums , not some meetings for the wanna meets and getting politicians like gore and blair to convince us about what is truth.
then we come to the science facts.
Where are we ( you tell me if its any different )
---the seas are getting slightly warmer -- since we started measuring it ( yes)but it might go down again
---The air is getting slighly warmer ( i bet none really has a handle on that and what diiference does it make -- its less indicative than the oceans )
--Co2 are rising, but from very low levels historically and geologically
-- the effect of doubling of C02 on env is not clear
--anthromorphic factors such as raditaion reflection and CH4 can be xepecetd to be more important than Co2 ?
Those who voted at Kyoto have set themselves on tram to nowhere specifically important . If they are going to spend our money on the future I would rather it was their money!
If they were seriuos about motivating us they would report ad infintum on science forums , not some meetings for the wanna meets and getting politicians like gore and blair to convince us about what is truth.
then we come to the science facts.
Where are we ( you tell me if its any different )
---the seas are getting slightly warmer -- since we started measuring it ( yes)but it might go down again
---The air is getting slighly warmer ( i bet none really has a handle on that and what diiference does it make -- its less indicative than the oceans )
--Co2 are rising, but from very low levels historically and geologically
-- the effect of doubling of C02 on env is not clear
--anthromorphic factors such as raditaion reflection and CH4 can be xepecetd to be more important than Co2 ?
Those who voted at Kyoto have set themselves on tram to nowhere specifically important . If they are going to spend our money on the future I would rather it was their money!
Wednesday, June 08, 2005
The point is the governments decision is a popular one - not necessarily a sound one. The deeper point is that you could advise them that this apparenetly long term decsion was weighted with a quick fix pardigm and is not what it seems !Just quick fix
Who would have thought that as practical scientists of the 60's we would face the prospect that our life's work in big picture environmental understanding and risk management would be so often ignored for blinkered, inadequate and even irrational views . The opportunity to invest wisely in conservation is being lost to those with an unrealistic and narrow museum worldview view of the world that avoids buying into the really tough and dynamic cutting edge issues. - the ones that Africa Asia and the Middle east need to move with right now .
Clearly too , if we are going to be more effective , we have to recognize the rational basis for the irrationality that’s out there Things like worldview, denial ,projection and guilt factors and the widespread Western cultures failure to see different value systems as actual heavy weighting factors in human decision making.
What gives the post Christian worldview of “nature worship” so much power is the value its adherents place on matter over mind. Those of us who want to see sound outcomes and not tokens need to take”nature worship” issues seriously because the values systems themselves can powerfully and increasingly distort the mere “evidence on its own “principles.
It’s easy to see elements of distortion , narrowmindedness ,fear, guilt and projection going on in that ‘irrational and emotive opponent” - harder to recognize it in your own worldview. To reduce the degree to which we might be calling the kettle black , we need to understand how to rationally argue both science and values together - to chase objectivity - well done AEF !
We , and our governments , can be a lot more effective in sound conservation investments if we understand and accept the real depths of the paradigm challenges that face each community living in and with each environment . Join in and help us BE objective and avoid cul de sac quick fix and token investments in conservation. http://cuttingedgeconservation.blogspot.com
Who would have thought that as practical scientists of the 60's we would face the prospect that our life's work in big picture environmental understanding and risk management would be so often ignored for blinkered, inadequate and even irrational views . The opportunity to invest wisely in conservation is being lost to those with an unrealistic and narrow museum worldview view of the world that avoids buying into the really tough and dynamic cutting edge issues. - the ones that Africa Asia and the Middle east need to move with right now .
Clearly too , if we are going to be more effective , we have to recognize the rational basis for the irrationality that’s out there Things like worldview, denial ,projection and guilt factors and the widespread Western cultures failure to see different value systems as actual heavy weighting factors in human decision making.
What gives the post Christian worldview of “nature worship” so much power is the value its adherents place on matter over mind. Those of us who want to see sound outcomes and not tokens need to take”nature worship” issues seriously because the values systems themselves can powerfully and increasingly distort the mere “evidence on its own “principles.
It’s easy to see elements of distortion , narrowmindedness ,fear, guilt and projection going on in that ‘irrational and emotive opponent” - harder to recognize it in your own worldview. To reduce the degree to which we might be calling the kettle black , we need to understand how to rationally argue both science and values together - to chase objectivity - well done AEF !
We , and our governments , can be a lot more effective in sound conservation investments if we understand and accept the real depths of the paradigm challenges that face each community living in and with each environment . Join in and help us BE objective and avoid cul de sac quick fix and token investments in conservation. http://cuttingedgeconservation.blogspot.com
Tuesday, April 12, 2005
Spreading Jam on Wounds
"I've got no doubt that right across the country we're spending far too much on bureaucracy and administration and we need to make sure more of it gets to the pointy end," The HON IAN CAMPBELL said yesterday
While I welcome the focus on the pointy end, the conservatives still give the dollar to the wrong accountability groups simply because they prefer simplicity.
And while I am not one to promote the simple greens, Ian's very talk of "trees" is simple talk all big picture conservationist learn to hate . Sustainable conservation, if its anything, is not simple- spreading jam stuff . Complexity, diversity and success in integration are the key to sustaining life here on earth and its not simple; possible though! .
All those who treat it with tokens waste precious dollars and career opportunitiies for our children. Give our children more than token efforts and advance the real professional and political issues and challenges http://productionecologists.blogspot.com
Our leaders like to focus on the sweets rather than the substance . They still get lulled into a sense of false comfort by the mere mention of the word "enterprise" , unaware of the high risk of isolation rather than integration-
The left hand does not knowesth what the right handeth doeth .The nurse and the CEO talk different languages. One offers jam, the other talks about uneccesary jagged edges( real sustainability issues), and how to avoid them long term .
Government is not business and true accountability ( Minister to Department) is still the key to sore prevention,stable, sustainable and more satisfying staffing and support .
All the other expensive rubbish their revived quango theology has created in the last couple of decsdes will keep coming back to bite them big time- the waste is the current governments creation ---not neccesarily the goodwill and volunteer groups-groups who one presumes still get little money for propaganda purposes.
see also govtisnotbusiness
Monday, June 21, 2004
Monday, May 03, 2004
Academics too with no vision, but to close things down? Hard work making decisions about something as simple as the environment! ?????
A sydney academic on the world today last week had no answers for Sugar farmers . Get big - they've got bigger . get smarter ( you name it they"ve done it !
Perhaps he didn't say what he really thought- love to hear from you mate! Rob?
I wonder if he listens to the media and thinks sugar farming is unsustainable ,but wasn't really prepared to say so ----pity the truth is now a large casualty of the war !
More on Sustainable systems? Don't let the media and wannabe leaders tell capable people what is and is not sustainable http://www.rachel.org
Unless you know more than they do or know something they don't ? Why not share your wisdom?
A sydney academic on the world today last week had no answers for Sugar farmers . Get big - they've got bigger . get smarter ( you name it they"ve done it !
Perhaps he didn't say what he really thought- love to hear from you mate! Rob?
I wonder if he listens to the media and thinks sugar farming is unsustainable ,but wasn't really prepared to say so ----pity the truth is now a large casualty of the war !
More on Sustainable systems? Don't let the media and wannabe leaders tell capable people what is and is not sustainable http://www.rachel.org
Unless you know more than they do or know something they don't ? Why not share your wisdom?
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